Clay has the privilege of being the lead pastor of North Point Community Church (NPCC) in Alpharetta, GA, but he didn’t start in that role. Beginning as a facilities intern (a.k.a. Vice-President of Nothing), he worked his way through many organizational levels and learned all too well the challenge of authority deprivation.

As the original and largest campus of North Point Ministries, which was ranked by Outreach Magazine in 2014 as the largest church in America, NPCC averages over 12,000 people weekly.

In this week’s episode of the Young Church Leaders Podcast with Grant Vissers I sit down and talk with Clay about his new book, “How to Lead When You’re Not in Charge.” It’s a great look at leveraging influence no matter what position you hold.

Welcome to episode 11 of the podcast!


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How to Lead When You’re Not In Charge

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Takeaways from the Episode

1. Change Comes Through Influence

If you are waiting to become the boss you are missing out. You can make change happen by learning to leverage influence even when you lack authority. Authority really doesn’t have much to do with being a great leader if anything at all. What matters is learning to inspire and motivate people to do things they don’t want to do. The only way to accomplish this is to have a positive influence in their life.

2. Identity Matters

If you are looking for things that you need to do to help you be a better leader they will be worthless if your sense of identity is misplaced. For example, if you are an “approval addict” you will lead with the end goal of receiving approval. But if you know your identity in Jesus you will lead from a place of confidence and humility.

3. Lead Yourself Well

The beginning to leading well when you’re not in charge is to first be able to lead yourself well. You won’t be able to lead others better than you are leading and caring for yourself. If you want to get to a destination (leading others/self well) I have to first know where I am and what I need to do to get to my destination.

4. Practical Tips to Monitor Your Heart

Reflect on your own emotions. Ask yourself “what am I feeling and why?” Turn down the white noise by removing distractions and focusing on spiritual disciplines.


Quotes from this episode

The steering wheel doesn’t work with authority; it works with influence Click To TweetYou can’t have any influence without a strong sense of identity Click To TweetIf you're going to lead yourself well you have to know where you are right now Click To TweetGod has done a lot through people who worked for bad bosses Click To Tweet


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Next Episode

Join us next time on the Young Church Leaders Podcast with Grant Vissers. In episode 12 we talk to Ben Stapley from Liquid Church in New Jersey.